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Old Feb 13, 2009, 03:21 AM // 03:21   #61
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You don't need an AP set up to make Discord builds work, but you're just hindering yourself on efficiency most of the time.
Pretty much what I was stating.

We all know you don't have to run a caller build but last time I checked GW players weren't big fans of gimping themselves.

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AP doesn't help discord damage, this "must use AP with Discordway" reasoning is hyped so much that it is getting ridiculous! It is turning into the "I must bring all hexes and conditions on my own character because I use discordway" build argument into a single point of utter failure!
Yeah....that's why so many run it....

Your forgetting that GW is 99% about efficiency and build potency especially when talking hero builds for PvE, even more so HM PvE.

People don't want to gimp themselves and a caller build with AP greatly increases the effectiveness of discordway and how fast mobs drop.It's logic a build like discordway, it's strength being huge targeted spikes, works perfectly with AP.

Symbiosis of the players build with his/her heroes has to be taken into account especially when the heroes DPS is conditional.

You can't argue that outside personal denial or preference.

It's fact.

Saying you can run what ever you want or just stand around while your heroes do all the work has little merit in a game where the majority of PvE is a cakewalk.The fact the mobs in GW are generally retarded does nothing to discount the potency of running an AP caller build with Discordway..

We are talking about the build and the gameplay usually associated with it.

Sabway is self-sufficient in attaining maximum efficiency with negligible influence from the build the player uses.

Discordway is self-sufficient but relies on the players build to make the most of it's conditional damage and is perfect for exploiting the awesomeness of AP.The player is also required to assist in targeting spikes.

It's really that simple, unless you don't mind gimping yourself.

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I have already stated if you like to use AP fine.But spamming overpowered PvE skills will not grant +100 armor to your party. Which one is better?
DPS is king...always.

Who needs SY when mobs are dropping like flies and you have a N/Rit in the team that easily keeps red bars up 99% of the time?

You already stated....

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Besides, I like going AFK while my discordway heroes handle stuff for me.If your discordway can't support that then it is a bad variant.
....hence your SY spam is really wasted.

Placing mitigation ahead of DPS only works if it's needed, in Discordway it seldom is, you clearly struggle to realize that else you would have already connected the dots of your own in game experience.

Anyway it's all become rather cyclic "I'm right, your wrong" argument now hence I'll take my leave.

Good luck.

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Old Feb 13, 2009, 03:28 AM // 03:28   #62
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Anyway it's all become rather cyclic "I'm right, your wrong" argument now
Agreed. The OP's question has been answered, so this is closed.
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